Aegis / Ironworks Corp - Vendor Comparison Discussion
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- Maria SantosAegisCloud0:04turn 0ASR 93%
Hey Catherine, thanks for making time today — I know you mentioned last week things have been pretty hectic on your end.
- Catherine PageCustomer0:13turn 1ASR 90%
Yeah, hectic is one word for it. We've got an audit coming up end of May and honestly our whole security stack is under a microscope right now.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud0:24turn 2ASR 92%
Understood, totally get that. And Russell, good to have you on as well — I think this is actually the first time we've spoken directly, right?
- Russell TangCustomer0:34turn 3ASR 91%
Yeah, first time. I've been kind of the one in the weeds on the day-to-day with the platform so Catherine thought it made sense for me to jump on this one.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud0:45turn 4ASR 90%
Absolutely, and honestly I'm glad you're here because I think a lot of what I want to talk through today is going to be pretty technical. So, where do you want to start — should I just sort of set an agenda or do you guys have things you want to get straight to?
- Catherine PageCustomer1:05turn 5ASR 88%
I think we should just get into it, Maria. I'll be honest with you — and I don't want this to feel like an ambush — but we've been having some pretty serious conversations internally about whether Aegis is still the right fit for us.
-2Catherine discloses serious internal conversations about whether Aegis is still the right fit. · competitive alternative
- Maria SantosAegisCloud1:22turn 6ASR 91%
Okay. I appreciate you saying that directly, Catherine. Can you help me understand what's driving that? Is this across the board or is it specific areas?
- Catherine PageCustomer1:32turn 7ASR 92%
It's — well, it's a few things. Russell, do you want to start with the Detect stuff since that's kind of where it kicked off?
- Russell TangCustomer1:42turn 8ASR 91%
Sure. So, look — the outage in March. That was a really bad week for us. We're a manufacturing environment, we've got operational technology, we've got floor systems that we're trying to keep visibility on, and for roughly six hours we had nothing. Zero threat monitoring. And I found out about it because one of my guys noticed alerts had stopped coming in, not because Aegis told us.
-1Russell describes the six-hour blackout and that they discovered it themselves. · service reliability
- Maria SantosAegisCloud2:06turn 9ASR 94%
Yeah, and that's — Russell, I hear you and I want to acknowledge that because that outage was, um, it was a significant failure on our part. The event processing pipeline had a cascading failure and it exposed a single point of failure in our ingestion layer that frankly should not have existed. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
- Russell TangCustomer2:28turn 10ASR 91%
I mean, at least you're saying that. But the communication piece is what really stung. We're paying for a platform that's supposed to be our eyes and ears and we essentially found out through the back door that it was blind.
-1Russell says the communication lapse 'stung' and they found out 'through the back door'. · support experience
- Maria SantosAegisCloud2:43turn 11ASR 93%
That's a fair criticism and it's one I've already escalated internally. The post-incident review identified that our customer notification process was too slow and too passive. We've since put in redundant processing nodes and implemented a circuit breaker pattern so that kind of cascade can't happen again, but I also want to be clear — the communication gap was a separate failure and it's one we're actively fixing.
- Catherine PageCustomer3:08turn 12ASR 90%
Okay but here's my thing, Maria — and I want you to really hear this — we're in manufacturing. We've got ISO 27001 we're working toward, we've got customers asking us about SOC 2 now, and we cannot have a situation where our security monitoring just goes dark and we don't know about it for hours. That's not a 'we're fixing the process' situation, that's a trust issue.
-1Catherine says the outage is 'a trust issue' given compliance requirements. · service reliability
- Maria SantosAegisCloud3:33turn 13ASR 89%
I completely understand, and I don't want to minimize that. Can I ask — since the remediation went in, have you seen any further gaps or performance issues with Detect specifically?
- Russell TangCustomer3:44turn 14ASR 88%
No, it's been stable since then. But stable for three weeks after a six-hour blackout isn't exactly confidence inspiring, you know?
-1Russell notes three weeks of stability is 'not exactly confidence inspiring'. · service reliability
- Maria SantosAegisCloud3:53turn 15ASR 95%
That's fair. And I'm not asking you to just take my word for it. I can get you a formal RCA document and the engineering team can actually walk you through the architecture changes if that would help rebuild some confidence.
- Catherine PageCustomer4:09turn 16ASR 89%
That might actually be useful, yeah. But — and I don't want to just pile on here — there's also the compliance piece. Russell and I were looking at the reporting functionality last quarter and it just felt really... limited? Like we couldn't get the kind of on-demand reporting we needed.
-1Catherine describes reporting functionality as 'really limited'. · product capability
- Maria SantosAegisCloud4:28turn 17ASR 91%
So this is actually something I do want to flag because it's timely — Aegis Comply v2 just went GA last week, on April 7th. And one of the headline features is exactly that — on-demand compliance reporting across SOC 2, PCI DSS, HIPAA, and ISO 27001. Like, you mentioned ISO 27001 a minute ago, that's now a supported framework.
- Russell TangCustomer4:50turn 18ASR 93%
Wait, when did that launch?
- Maria SantosAegisCloud4:53turn 19ASR 92%
April 7th. So literally last week. I know the timing is — I wish I'd been able to get you a preview of it earlier, that's on me, but the functionality that you were frustrated about should be significantly different now.
- Catherine PageCustomer5:08turn 20ASR 95%
Okay well that's... I mean, that would have been helpful to know about sooner. We've been going through this whole evaluation partly because of the compliance reporting gaps.
-1Catherine says knowing about Comply v2 sooner would have been helpful. · support experience
- Maria SantosAegisCloud5:19turn 21ASR 91%
And I take responsibility for that communication gap on my end. You should have been looped in on the Comply v2 roadmap well before GA. Can I ask — what does the evaluation look like right now? Are you in active conversations with other vendors?
- Catherine PageCustomer5:36turn 22ASR 89%
Yeah, we've been talking to Fortiguard Pro. They reached out to us actually, about six weeks ago, and their pitch was pretty compelling especially on the compliance and reporting side.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud5:48turn 23ASR 93%
Okay, good to know. And how far along are those conversations?
- Catherine PageCustomer5:53turn 24ASR 90%
We've had two demos and they're putting together a proposal. Russell, what's your read on them technically?
- Russell TangCustomer6:00turn 25ASR 91%
Honestly their UI is cleaner. Alert triage feels a bit more intuitive. But I've got questions about how they handle OT environments specifically because a lot of their case studies seem very IT-centric and we've got Siemens PLCs on the floor that I need visibility on.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud6:18turn 26ASR 97%
That's a really important point and it's actually one of the areas where I think Aegis Detect has genuine depth — the OT and ICS coverage specifically. But I don't want to just tell you that, I'd rather show you. Have you actually stress-tested Fortiguard Pro against your OT environment or is that still pending?
- Russell TangCustomer6:38turn 27ASR 92%
Still pending. Their proposal is supposed to address it but we haven't seen it yet.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud6:44turn 28ASR 89%
Okay. So here's what I'd like to propose — and tell me if this feels like too much — but I'd like to set up a technical session with our OT security specialist and your team specifically around the manufacturing use case, Siemens environment included. And separately, I want to get you into a Comply v2 demo because I genuinely think what you see is going to be different from what you've experienced before.
- Russell TangCustomer7:11turn 29ASR 93%
I mean, I'm open to it. Catherine?
- Catherine PageCustomer7:15turn 30ASR 90%
I'm open to it too but I want to be honest — we're not going to be swayed just by demos at this point. The March outage shook our confidence and we need more than a good product presentation to feel like Aegis is the right long-term partner. Does that make sense?
-1Catherine says they are 'not going to be swayed just by demos' and need more than a presentation. · competitive alternative
- Maria SantosAegisCloud7:34turn 31ASR 93%
It makes complete sense. And I respect you for saying it that way. What would it take — like, genuinely, what would rebuilding that trust look like for you? I want to understand what success looks like from your side.
- Catherine PageCustomer7:49turn 32ASR 93%
Honestly? A few things. We want the RCA documentation Russell mentioned. We'd want some kind of SLA commitment or credit structure for monitoring downtime specifically — not just generic uptime guarantees. And we want to actually see the Comply v2 reporting in action for ISO 27001 because that audit in May is real and we need to be able to produce documentation.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud8:12turn 33ASR 90%
All of that is reasonable and I can work toward all three. The RCA I can get you this week. The SLA conversation I'll need to pull in our account executive and potentially our VP of Customer Success, but I don't think what you're asking for is out of reach. And the Comply v2 demo — I can have that scheduled within the week. Would next Tuesday or Wednesday work?
- Catherine PageCustomer8:37turn 34ASR 90%
Wednesday works better for me. Russell?
- Russell TangCustomer8:40turn 35ASR 93%
Wednesday's fine.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud8:42turn 36ASR 96%
Great. I'll get that on the calendar today. And look — I know this call was hard and I appreciate that you came to me directly instead of just going quiet. I'd rather have the honest conversation than find out after the fact that we'd lost you. We've got work to do to earn back your confidence and I'm not taking that lightly.
- Catherine PageCustomer9:06turn 37ASR 96%
We appreciate that. Like I said, we're not looking to leave just for the sake of leaving — switching vendors mid-audit cycle would be a nightmare. But we need to feel like Aegis has its house in order.
- Maria SantosAegisCloud9:19turn 38ASR 97%
Understood. I'll follow up with a summary email this afternoon — RCA timeline, the Wednesday Comply v2 demo, and next steps on the SLA discussion. Anything else before we wrap?
- Russell TangCustomer9:31turn 39ASR 94%
No, I think that covers it. Thanks Maria.
- Catherine PageCustomer9:34turn 40ASR 91%
Thanks, Maria. Talk soon.